M Jens Michelsen: We did an interview with Esther Bauer, Beate Meyer conducted the
interview
in 1993
B Esther
Bauer: Yes.
M : ...and now you are visiting
Hamburg again.
You had been here
a few times in the meantime and you said you would like
to
tell us a little more. What was your motivation to give us another
account?
B: Well (laughs
slightly), my husband
Werner
Bauer was terribly jealous.
M Jens
Michelsen: Mhm
B: And
what I didn’t tell you was that I got married in Theresienstadt.
M : Oh yes?
B: I met the young man
Hanuš (Honza)
Leiner (1914–1945?) was deported in 1941 from Prague, his place of
birth, to Theresienstadt. According to Esther
Bauer, he was active in Theresienstadt as a
cook. Hanuš Leiner was
deported to Auschwitz-Birkenau on 28.9.1944.
This transport comprised 2,488 persons; 2,015 did not survive. on the
first day when we were marched into Theresienstadt.
He was
a cook and a Czech, of course he didn’t
speak a word
of German and I didn’t speak a word of Czech. And we were ...uhm...
put in the attic
of a barracks.
M : When you’ve got problems,
just drop into English, it’s no problem.
B:
Yes, we/we had to walk up to the attic – the attic of this barracks
was terribly
dirty, no walls. We were about a thousand people from
Hamburg, men, women, and
children all together, no beds, nothing to sit on,
just the floor. And as we
walked past this kitchen, I saw that this young
man
Hanuš
Leiner was looking at me. And as a girl you know, he’ll come
after me (laughs slightly).
And that’s what he did. And
of course I couldn’t speak to him since we
didn’t speak the same language. So we
always needed someone else to
translate for us. I was friends with him for
months. I then learned
Czech and he helped me a lot. He always gave me a little
more
food, and to my
mother Marie Jonas, née
Levinsohn as well. And his brother was a
carpenter. He actually was
an
architect, but in Theresienstadt he became a
carpenter again. He made beds
for us, and we were five
or six women, with my
mother Marie Jonas, née
Levinsohn, in one
room. So we no longer had to live in the
barracks. That was later,
of course. And in October
’44 we got married. We were told that
the vows would have to be
repeated after – that is, in case of – the liberation,
that this marriage was
only valid inside the ghetto and not outside of it. And
three days later (clears her throat), since there was constant terror, some
people
were sent away, including my husband
Hanuš
Leiner. It was said that a new ghetto was built
near
Dresden. And so
a few weeks or a
week later we were told that the wives of these men were
allowed to follow their husbands.
Since I had only been married for three days I
went, of course. I must be
one of very few people who voluntarily went to
Auschwitz. For we never
got to
see Dresden. My husband
Hanuš
Leiner didn’t either. What I heard later was that he was sent
to Auschwitz
and didn’t
survive. And of course I ended up in Auschwitz as well (inhales
deeply).
There, I think I told you this before, I was selected for
a
transport to Freiberg in
Saxony. We built airplanes there.
Interview with Esther Bauer (B), November 20, 1998. Interviewer: Jens Michelsen (M), minute 00:09 to 3:53 (translated by Insa Kummer), edited in: Key Documents of German-Jewish History, <https://dx.doi.org/10.23691/jgo:source-3.en.v1> [December 21, 2024].